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[Forest in Winter - 5] : Proofing continues ...

Posted by Dave Bull at 10:38 AM, November 24, 2009

Continued from [Forest in Winter - 4] | Starting point of the thread is [Forest in Winter - 1]

Very much appreciating the comments and suggestion that people are leaving on these proofs. It's the old 'ju-nin to-iro' at work here ... 'Ten people, Ten colours' ... There'll be certainly no way to please everybody, but hopefully whatever I come up with as a final version will at least be acceptable to most of the collectors!

I mentioned in the previous post that it wasn't such a good idea to try this kind of work in the evening, under a single hanging bulb, and I was right, I pretty much borked it. These next two sheets don't really add anything to the discussion.

Here's the grid image with the proofs to date, with #5 and 6 pulled out (they were far too warm and muddy, and actually looked more like cherry blossoms than anything else ... so what you are seeing is 1+2 3+4 and 7+8)

Looking at #7 and 8, I see that I completely failed in what I had intended to try last night; I was going to cut the rose right back, keep a good contrast in the foreground, and cut back the snow shadows up in the tree branches. I totally missed on the first two, only succeeding in the third ...

I think that cutting back the shadows up in the trees is a good thing - making everything 'lighter' overhead. But with those shadows pulled back, even a very faint rose came forward too much. And we've now lost any sense that there is an embankment on the right hand side. Might be that I have to cut another block for that, we'll see ...

It's also interesting to see that - as usual - the more I try things, the more I seem to be wandering away from where it should be. I could have easily sent out #1 or #3 (say) as 'the print', and it would have probably been very well received.

But I think I can get this thing worked out a little bit better than what we've seen, so it's back to the drawing board printing bench! But that'll have to wait until this afternoon, as there is a pile of office work waiting this morning. That's the huge problem with this 'independent craftsman' way of life - turning the lights on over in the 'office' means that the 'factory' shuts down completely! Anyway, first I have to get the Mokuhankan orders from the weekend down to the Post Office:

It's mostly CDs (the white packets) and Gift Prints, which are starting to wake up after a slow start over the past couple of weeks.

And then I have to head for City Hall. I need to renew my Alien Registration (they need a new photo every five years), and then go and talk to the people in the tax department and medical insurance bureau ... Let them know that no, I haven't run away, and yes I will be catching up soon ... At least I will if I can find a solution to this proofing, and then get these things made and out the door! :~)

The thread continues in [Forest in Winter - 6] ...

Discussion

Following comment posted by: Dave on November 24, 2009 6:48 PM

OK, deliveries all made, paperwork at City Hall all done, and I did have a chance to get another pair of proofs finished this afternoon.

Here is the updated 'grid' image, with (as before) pair 5-6 removed. We now have: 1+2 3+4 7+8 and 9+10.

Nine has a very faint touch of rose; ten has none at all. I'm thinking that these now look not so bad - they keep the overall lightness of proof #1 (especially up in the tree canopy), yet the path is very 'walkable', drawing you in, something that is perhaps the most important part of this image for me. There is none of the muddy warmth that confused some of the earlier proofs; this one is - I hope - clear and cold.

Here are links to all ten, if you wish to inspect any of them closer:

#1 | #2 | #3 | #4 | #5 | #6 | #7 | #8 | #9 | #10

The main 'problem' now, which I have no way to fix at this point, is that it just doesn't look good close up; you have to stand back. Even in these computer images on my screen, the small versions make more 'sense' than the larger ones. So when the collectors turn the book page and see it right there close up, I don't know ...



Following comment posted by: Jan Kellett on November 24, 2009 11:28 PM

My vote goes to #9 (top right), which to me has the best balance of light/shade, and is good hard and bright, and has depth.
The other issue is a tougher nut, and also has to do with the expectations of the viewers. This is not in the usual tradition of Japanese woodblock prints. Your call as to whether you wish to challenge that. Whatever you decide, it's a beautiful print.



Following comment posted by: Jennifer on November 25, 2009 10:22 AM

Its so interesting to see what happens in the image with just slight adjustments in the colors. I like #9, although I liked the more violet shadows you had in 5 and 6.

This one could be the first print of a new series--designed to be viewed in a different way than the series in books.



Following comment posted by: MIke L on November 25, 2009 2:02 PM

For what it's worth, as they stand right now, I like the image in the lower left hand corner of the 'grid' image. The blue sky is the mediating detail to me; there it is neither too bright or too dark. If I could change some things around, I would add the faint hint of rose from the one immediately to its right but keep my first choice's brighter snow. Best of luck! It's beautiful no matter how you make it!



Following comment posted by: Serge on November 25, 2009 6:00 PM

Hello Dave,
#9 and #10 are big improvements. My vote goes to #10. The snow appears "lighter" as if it is very fresh, whereas in #9, it had time to settle down and get slightly packed. I see it as #9 being an afternoon print, around 4.00-5.00pm, while #10 is more of a morning print, around 8.00-9.00am with the snow fresh from the night.



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